# Trellis on Cloudways

**URL:** https://discourse.roots.io/t/trellis-on-cloudways/11804
**Category:** trellis
**Tags:** hosting
**Created:** 2018-03-04T19:12:53Z
**Posts:** 2

## Post 1 by @broskees — 2018-03-04T19:12:53Z

There are two things I’m curious about. I like the idea of using [Cloudways](https://cloudways.com/) as it offers a lot of options for developers and sysadmins, and also how, depending on what you need, you can choose a multitude of different services to host your server on (DigitalOcean, AWS, Linode, etc.). However, I haven’t tried to set up trellis via their platform. Has anyone used this service with Trellis? How’s it performed for you?

Second thing is about using the Cloudways Server/Application design. Generally on Cloudways, you can provision a server, then set up different (applications) on that server ([document that visualizes this](https://support.cloudways.com/how-to-add-an-application-to-an-existing-server/)). Which is basically the same concept as having multiple sites on a single trellis set up. I’ve read a few different threads on this, so I suppose I’ll ask this way: As an agency, looking to manage our sites with trellis, should we set up a single server per site? Many of our clients are local shops, real scaling will most likely never be necessary. For clients such as these, could I perhaps group servers by location? Can I keep staging environments all on a single server, and separate the production servers?

Here are the topics I’ve found already discussing the second question:

- [One DO droplet per trellis/bedrock project?](https://discourse.roots.io/t/one-do-droplet-per-trellis-bedrock-project/4712)
- [Why is wordress\_sites.yml plural?](https://discourse.roots.io/t/why-is-wordress-sites-yml-plural/4701)
- [Best practice for multiple sites on multiple servers](https://discourse.roots.io/t/best-practice-for-multiple-sites-on-multiple-servers/5385)
- [One Trellis Box - Multiple Sites on Individual VPS](https://discourse.roots.io/t/one-trellis-box-multiple-sites-on-individual-vps/7784)

I also found this thread [here](https://discourse.roots.io/t/is-roots-for-me/11379), wondering if spinning up a custom PHP application is close enough to the blank ubuntu provision DigitalOcean offers? Looks like the custom PHP application provision form Cloudways doesn’t support MariaDB from the initial look, but I also found [this recent press release](https://discourse.roots.io/t/is-roots-for-me/11379) from Cloudways as well, so I’m not sure.

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## Post 2 by @swalkinshaw — 2018-03-05T22:32:22Z

> [@broskees](#):
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> As an agency, looking to manage our sites with trellis, should we set up a single server per site?

Separation is better. It also offers a clearer path towards transparent billing. And if one server goes down, it’s only one client.

> [@broskees](#):
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> For clients such as these, could I perhaps group servers by location?

You could do that.

> [@broskees](#):
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> Can I keep staging environments all on a single server, and separate the production servers?

That’s also possible :slight_smile:

I don’t know anything about Cloudways, but Trellis/Ansible can be pretty flexible in terms how you group/separate sites. Might just take a little extra work.